I have 2 mp3 tracks. In the real CD both tracks are linked one with the next one making a continuity as if they were just a single track (New Age music is plenty of this effect). But actually they are 2 different tracks and I'd like to keep them separate.
However in this particular case when I was listening both tracks one after the other in a player (either Winamp or Windows Media Player) I noticed a small gap of tenths of a second between both tracks. I thought: "OK it's easy, I just need to edit the second track that has the annoying small silence with GW, and remove it". Not a problem as I had successfully did it in some other occassions using previous GW releases.
Well, it didn't work. This time, every time I tried to remove it the little silence appeared again and again. I used several methods: delet, cut, trim, save as, silence reduction, etc. to get rid of this little hole but no one worked.
A cue: the track starts very quiet and calm, it means that the samples there are "low" or "weak" (I don't know how to express it in a better way).
I suspect two things:
1) Independently of what I do, by some reason GW adds the little silence at the beginning of the track when I save it; or, what would be worse
2) GW detects that the samples are too "weak" and ignores them during the audio decompression resulting in a loss of samples and thus the silence.
Tech stuff: I have Goldwave 5.22, registered; Windows XP Pro updated as of today.
I am a GW user since 1999 and I couldn't use another sound editor. So, can anybody tell me what might be happenning? Could it be a bug?
Thanks!
Problem removing a little "hole" of silence
The problem is that mp3 encoding CREATES those little gaps....you should save each mp3 as a wav first, combine them, remove the little "gap", then re-save the combined tracks as one mp3 file.
There's no avoiding the little bit of silence that mp3 encoding adds to files...you'll find it's not limited to GW, either.
There's no avoiding the little bit of silence that mp3 encoding adds to files...you'll find it's not limited to GW, either.
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The gap in mp3 MUST be releated to goldwave or the encoder...
all of my mp3's i made with command-line LAME play back gapless on my ipod (rockbox) and winamp.
but in all my years i've never seen a pattern of every mp3 having a 2-second pregap..it just depends on the ripper and encoder.
you SHOULD find that there's no gap at all in the files...the gap is created by your media player. In winamp if you go to output plugins, DirectSound...the buffer length should be somewhere aroudn 2000ms and the other buffer sliders should be at 0. this should give you gapless playback in winamp. If you have a card that uses ASIO, then get the ASIO output for winamp and enable gapless plugin.
but sorry, the gaps ARE NOT created by goldwave and they're not a standard of the mp3 format. it depends on the encoder and CD ripper. a lot of CD-rippers that are incorrectly made/configured will put a gap between each track.
all of my mp3's i made with command-line LAME play back gapless on my ipod (rockbox) and winamp.
but in all my years i've never seen a pattern of every mp3 having a 2-second pregap..it just depends on the ripper and encoder.
you SHOULD find that there's no gap at all in the files...the gap is created by your media player. In winamp if you go to output plugins, DirectSound...the buffer length should be somewhere aroudn 2000ms and the other buffer sliders should be at 0. this should give you gapless playback in winamp. If you have a card that uses ASIO, then get the ASIO output for winamp and enable gapless plugin.
but sorry, the gaps ARE NOT created by goldwave and they're not a standard of the mp3 format. it depends on the encoder and CD ripper. a lot of CD-rippers that are incorrectly made/configured will put a gap between each track.
Thank you DewDude420. You said:
Let's put things in a simpler way: forget the first file, forget the word "gap". I just have a file that has a little bit of silence at the very beginning. Then I remove it, so I don't see it anymore, I save the file, then close it, then open it again and the little silence is there again!. Before this I have done it a hundred of times and always worked. It's just a simple and strightforward "delete" operation, why it's not working?
If that's true, well... thank you for your time.
The media player has nothing to do here except that it "told" me there was something wrong at the beginning of the file. Then GW confirmed me that the player was right, there was a silence there....you SHOULD find that there's no gap at all in the files...the gap is created by your media player...
Let's put things in a simpler way: forget the first file, forget the word "gap". I just have a file that has a little bit of silence at the very beginning. Then I remove it, so I don't see it anymore, I save the file, then close it, then open it again and the little silence is there again!. Before this I have done it a hundred of times and always worked. It's just a simple and strightforward "delete" operation, why it's not working?
You're probably right, so, it's likely the encoder. I use LAME 3.97. Which other encoder would you recomend? Could be Stiiv right when he says...the gaps ARE NOT created by goldwave...
?...There's no avoiding the little bit of silence that mp3 encoding adds to files...
If that's true, well... thank you for your time.
I'm not an expert on this, but it's a known issue with MP3s and there are work-arounds.
Search the net for "Gapless MP3" or "Gapless playback", etc.
Here are a couple of links to get you started -
Wikipedia
Hydrogenaudio.org
Winamp.com
Search the net for "Gapless MP3" or "Gapless playback", etc.
Here are a couple of links to get you started -
Wikipedia
Hydrogenaudio.org
Winamp.com