GoldWave v5.64 Beta

[GoldWave Inc.]

Any comments, suggestions, or problem reports for GoldWave v5.64 are welcome.

Chris

[GoldWave Inc.]

Just noticed that playing a file with sampling rate different than the device's rate, then playing a file with a sampling rate the same as the device's rate causes playback distortion and speed changes when using WASAPI. The problem does not occur for DirectSound. Already fixed this for the next update.

Chris

[chris319]

Program does not go into record mode when WASAPI selected and device is in exclusive mode. This is on a laptop with a USB interface. Also, Control Properties -> Record -> Monitor Input becomes unchecked so input is not monitored.

[GoldWave Inc.]

Many audio devices support only one sampling rate, so unless you record in a file with the correct rate, recording won't work and monitoring will be disabled. On the Device tab, select the "Shared" quality and make note of the rate. Use that for recording. Using the "Record New" button should create a new file with the correct rate for recording.

Also use the "Information" button on the System tab to see what rates the device supports.

DirectSound resamples audio to match the device's rate, but then you don't get exactly what you are recording.

Chris

[chris319]

The interface (EMU 0404 USB) most definitely supports a 44100 Hz sampling rate. This is the sampling rate specified when a new recording is initiated with GoldWave.

[GoldWave Inc.]

What details do you get when you use the Information button on the System tab?

When you start recording, does a message box appear or does recording not start without any error. If you create a new file with a sampling rate of 48000Hz, does that work?

Chris

[chris319]

The device of interest here is Virtual Audio Cable, but the problem exists with an actual hardware interface as well. Goldwave records for a fraction of a second then quits. There is no warning or message box. The problem occurs at sampling rates of both 44100 and 48000 Hz. There is no problem recording in shared mode.

Here is the information in exclusive mode:

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Computer: 
Microsoft Windows 7 Business Edition, 32-bit Service Pack 1 (6.1, build 7601)
______________________________
Settings:
	API: WASAPI
	Timer: Off
	Level Activated: Off
	Unbounded: On
	dc Filter: Off
______________________________
Playback Devices:
    WASAPI
	+ Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio) [05E3] (selected)
		   Volume (-62.0dB to 0.0dB): -10.2
	
	+ Line 1 (Virtual Audio Cable) [0528]
		   Volume (-100.0dB to 0.0dB): -100.0
		   8000Hz at 16 bit
		   11025Hz at 16 bit
		   16000Hz at 16 bit
		   22050Hz at 16 bit
		   32000Hz at 16 bit
		   44100Hz at 16 bit
		   48000Hz at 16 bit
		   88200Hz at 16 bit
		   96000Hz at 16 bit
		   192000Hz at 16 bit
	
______________________________
Record Devices:
    WASAPI
	+ Line 1 (Virtual Audio Cable) [0528] (selected)
		   Volume (-100.0dB to 0.0dB): 0.0
		   8000Hz at 16 bit
		   11025Hz at 16 bit
		   16000Hz at 16 bit
		   22050Hz at 16 bit
		   32000Hz at 16 bit
		   44100Hz at 16 bit
		   48000Hz at 16 bit
		   88200Hz at 16 bit
		   96000Hz at 16 bit
		   192000Hz at 16 bit
	
	+ Mic 1 (Virtual Audio Cable) [04FA]
		   Volume (-100.0dB to 0.0dB): 0.0
		   Device is disabled, disconnected, or not present (refer to help).
	
	+ Stereo Mix (Realtek High Definition Audio) [058C]
		   Volume (-16.5dB to 12.0dB): 0.0
		   Device is disabled, disconnected, or not present (refer to help).
	
	+ S/PDIF 1 (Virtual Audio Cable) [04B9]
		   Volume (-100.0dB to 0.0dB): 0.0
		   Device is disabled, disconnected, or not present (refer to help).
	
	+ Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio) [05E0]
		   Volume (-16.5dB to 12.0dB): 12.0
		   Device is disabled, disconnected, or not present (refer to help).

Here it is in shared mode:

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Computer: 
Microsoft Windows 7 Business Edition, 32-bit Service Pack 1 (6.1, build 7601)
______________________________
Settings:
	API: WASAPI
	Timer: Off
	Level Activated: Off
	Unbounded: On
	dc Filter: Off
______________________________
Playback Devices:
    WASAPI
	+ Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio) [05E3] (selected)
		   Volume (-62.0dB to 0.0dB): -10.2
	
	+ Line 1 (Virtual Audio Cable) [0528]
		   Volume (-100.0dB to 0.0dB): -100.0
		   8000Hz at 16 bit
		   11025Hz at 16 bit
		   16000Hz at 16 bit
		   22050Hz at 16 bit
		   32000Hz at 16 bit
		   44100Hz at 16 bit
		   48000Hz at 16 bit
		   88200Hz at 16 bit
		   96000Hz at 16 bit
		   192000Hz at 16 bit
	
______________________________
Record Devices:
    WASAPI
	+ Line 1 (Virtual Audio Cable) [0528] (selected)
		   Volume (-100.0dB to 0.0dB): 0.0
	
	+ Mic 1 (Virtual Audio Cable) [04FA]
		   Volume (-100.0dB to 0.0dB): 0.0
		   Device is disabled, disconnected, or not present (refer to help).
	
	+ Stereo Mix (Realtek High Definition Audio) [058C]
		   Volume (-16.5dB to 12.0dB): 0.0
		   Device is disabled, disconnected, or not present (refer to help).
	
	+ S/PDIF 1 (Virtual Audio Cable) [04B9]
		   Volume (-100.0dB to 0.0dB): 0.0
		   Device is disabled, disconnected, or not present (refer to help).
	
	+ Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio) [05E0]
		   Volume (-16.5dB to 12.0dB): 12.0
		   Device is disabled, disconnected, or not present (refer to help).
	

[ProAudioTrish]

Many audio devices support only one sampling rate, so unless you record in a file with the correct rate, recording won't work and monitoring will be disabled. On the Device tab, select the "Shared" quality and make note of the rate. Use that for recording. Using the "Record New" button should create a new file with the correct rate for recording.

Also use the "Information" button on the System tab to see what rates the device supports.

DirectSound resamples audio to match the device's rate, but then you don't get exactly what you are recording.

Chris

I'm sorry for chiming in so late, but I was curious to know if this type of feature could be alleviated. I work all sorts of audio files that are recorded at various speeds and qualities. Does anyone know if this would effect my subwoofers? Is there any more flexibility in this sense? Thanks, folks!

[GoldWave Inc.]

chris319,
The next update should fix the problem.

ProAudioTrish,
Using DirectSound mode allows you to use any sampling rate through emulation. Otherwise you are limited by what the sound hardware and driver support. The only flexibility is to replace the sound hardware with something that supports a wider range of sampling rates.

Chris

[Derek_G]

The new beta's been working great, but I was particularly stoked about the VST plugin integration, and the handful I've been trying from KVRaudio.com have been giving errors. Here's an example screenshot (assuming skydrive actually works):

...

It just consistently says "An exception occured during processing". Any update underway to improve the VST plugin feature?

On an unrelated note, I've noticed that Multiquence creates a high-end ring on really low-end tracks, which makes leveling difficult because the mix has to be bounced to a file to hear what the bass will actually sound like. It may just be my particular system, but running a new Creative X-Fi Titanium HD I imagine others are hearing the same thing.

[LyleMix]

Goldwave what hardware do you recommend that supports a wide range of sampling rates before I go out and start spending money.

[GoldWave Inc.]

Derek_G,
Some changes to VST support have been made in v5.66 that should avoid exceptions in some plug-ins.

LyleMix,
Hardware that conforms to the HD Audio standard or USB Audio standard and use the standard Microsoft driver work reliably (but with limited sampling rates). Users with Realtek, Creative's Sound Blaster, and M-Audio hardware have reported problems with playback and recording (proprietary driver related). Off hand I can't think of any that support a wide range of sampling rates in hardware. You can always use the Resample effect in GoldWave to convert the rate.

Chris

[DougDbug]

Goldwave what hardware do you recommend that supports a wide range of sampling rates before I go out and start spending money.

Any soundcard should work with GoldWave, as long as you have up-to-date (and working) drivers. It's up to the driver (supplied by the hardware manufacturer or Microsoft) to interface between the application (GoldWave) and the hardware. (The application and the driver both must conform to the Micorsoft protocols in order to work together.)

What sample rates do you want to use? Are you concerned about recording or playback?

FYI - 44.1kHz (CD etc.) or 48kHz (DVD etc.) are good for almost anything.

If you are looking for "higher resolution", most professional audio interfaces go to 96kHz/24-bit or 196kHz/24-bit, so if you buy a high-quality interface, you should be able to get whatever format you're looking for.

[donrandall]

Goldwave what hardware do you recommend that supports a wide range of sampling rates before I go out and start spending money.

There are a great many very good digital audio devices available. If you want one for general everyday use, many find the cards that fit into your computer case to be the most convenient.

Some folks have need for a device with a microphone pre-amp or an instrument line input, they generally use an external device that connects via Firewire or USB.

Try to find some online articles that will give you a sense of what you need to get the results you want. Type "digital audio interfaces" or even "computer soundcards" into a search engine and you will get a lot of information.